Better living through chemistry! I was first introduced to Adderall a few years ago by a friend deep in the anorexic abyss. At the time I wrote it off as just more evidence of the all-consuming nihilism of the disease. Not only was she starving herself, working out hours every day and popping diet pills like candy but now she was taking prescription meds too – just one more thing to maintain her tortuously thin frame. To her though it was significant: it allowed her to maintain her focus and mental functioning during an illness that is notorious for compromising both. Yet, I wrote it off. Anorexics will also tell you to punch yourself in the stomach every time it growls and to drink vinegar to dampen your hunger. Crazy talk. (And you know that being stuck in the revolving door of eating disorders myself, I mean that with love.)
Other than the occasional mention of it in relation to superskinny celebs (ahem, Lindsay Lohan), I forgot about it until today when an acquaintance of mine brought it up again. To encapsulate a very lengthy conversation, the general idea is that while she does not have ADHD – the disorder for which the drug is legally prescribed – she takes it every day and sees huge benefits from it. After hearing about it from another friend (and trying out a couple of Friend’s pills), she managed to wrangle a scrip from her doctor under semi-false pretenses. But oh was it worth it, she raved. Not only does she have laser-sharp focus now but she can get an entire day’s worth of work done in 5 hours!
In addition to making her the Energizer Bunny, it’s also made her a Playboy Bunny. “I never worry about my weight now!” she exulted and then chastised me in the same breath: “You’re too obsessed with your exercise and food. You just need to learn to chill out about it, like me. I eat whatever I want and exercise when it feels good and I’m 15 pounds lighter than I was in high school!” Which is true, incidentally. I have long admired/been irritated by Girlfriend’s ability to maintain her modelesque figure without any apparent effort.
“But you’re taking drugs,” I replied pointedly.
“So?” She was entirely unremorseful. “They’re not addictive and they’re not diet pills or anything. In fact, all they do is make me more me!” I must have looked incredulous because she continued, “You know those days you have when you’re totally on? Everything runs smoothly, you have tons of energy, you don’t forget anything and you do the best work of your life?”
“Um, yeah.” While few and far between, I do have those days. They’re awesome.
“Well with Adderall you can have those days every day.”
Some scientists actually agree with my friend. In the December 2008 issue of Nature magazine, several researchers posit that we should be promoting Adderall and other cognitive enhancing drugs saying, “Society must respond to the growing demand for cognitive enhancement. That response must start by rejecting the idea that ‘enhancement’ is a dirty word.” They make the case that these drugs have very few side effects and provide a lot of benefit even for people without the illness or disorder they are designed for. This off-label, Brave New World use of the pharmaceuticals has been popular for a decade with college and high school students looking for an edge, not to mention the Hollywood starlet set.
Think of it: a pill that not only increases your energy, mental capacity and functioning but also makes you effortlessly thin! It is kinda perfect, right?
My mind has been rolling that one around all day. I’ve talked before about all the pressure pregnant women are under to gain little weight and then lose it as fast as humanly possible afterward. I am after all the girl whose very first purchase upon finding out I was pregnant again (my fifth child!) was a Taut belly wrap to use post-partum. That’s right, I didn’t buy crib sheets or adorable little shoes or even a new maternity dress. I bought a glorified Ace bandage that is supposed to help flatten my mummy tummy faster. (But hey, it worked for Brooke Burke!) This is especially on my mind now as I’m in the last month of my pregnancy and so the weight is piling on – all while I’m still on restricted exercise.
In addition to the weight issue, the thing I remember most about new motherhood is the mental fog I walk around in for about 4 months after the kid is born. A combination of crashing hormones, time-consuming nursing sessions and sleep deprivation, my brain is so mushy that I once took the same wrong exit three times in a row on my way to pick up a friend from the airport. It takes me a solid six months to get back on stable footing after my kids are born and at least a year before I feel like a shell of my old self again.
And you’re telling me a pill can fix all that?
My gut still thinks it’s a bad idea though. So today I’ve been looking up all the bad things about Adderall on the Internet. And the Internet being, well, the Internet, there are plenty of bad things out there. For one thing, Adderall comes with the ominous “black box warning” from the FDA meaning it can cause death or serious harm. There are also reports that it increases anxiety – something I certainly don’t need any help with – and heart irregularities. Not to mention that these drugs haven’t been around long enough to know what their long-term effects are going to be. And I’d be lying if I didn’t add that part of it is just jealousy. It’s not fair that I have to measure up to these perfect medicated women!
Still, these things seem small in comparison to my friend’s Perfect Life.
This is where I need you guys to save me from myself. I’m already terrified of “not living up to my potential” but this self-medicating – it is a bad idea, right? I’m not talking about taking drugs for medical problems that you legitimately have – I have no problem with that. I’m talking here about using stimulants to give you a leg up. Have you ever done it? Would you ever do it? Is it really not that big a deal? Would you ever finesse the truth to your doctor so you could get a prescription for Adderall (which incidentally my friend gave me detailed instructions on how to do just that)? My brain just won’t let this one go.
PS> I am not now taking Adderall nor have I ever done so in the past. Just wanted to make that abundantly clear.
UPDATE: An anonymous reader posted their personal experience with taking Adderall in the comments below (they are the second anonymous commenter, about 10 down the list) that is an absolute MUST READ. If you have ever considered taking this drug, I beg you to read their comment.
I first heard about taking Adderall for weight loss last year when I read an article in Women's Health, and I'd be lying if I said I've never thought about taking it. I try to love myself, no matter the number on the scale, but sadly, I think that if it was side-effect free, I'd be on the Adderall bandwagon. (Of course, I'm still trying to deal with the weight gain that's come along with this pregnancy so maybe my mindset isn't all that great.)
But, you know, I like having a regular heartbeat and not dying. I think not dying is better than being skinny.
To be honest, I had never really heard of it before, but now I'm tempted to try it 🙁 Just shows how tempting quick fixes are.
I heard about Adderall when I was actively anorexic, but was too afraid to take pills (because starving is the natural, healthy route, right?). But later, when I was in a difficult place with recovery, a co-worker told me that her pharmacology-student-friend told HER that Claritin D was an effective, prescription-free substitute. No black box warning and no appetite. I caved and tried it for a while. The unfortunate difference was that I was in a mental fog (hello, antihistamines!) for a couple of weeks. I wised up and stopped taking them and went to therapy instead.
Seriously, if we need to go to such extreme measures as taking drugs to be a certain weight, maybe we aren't supposed to be that weight.
Well huh. Judging from the first two comments I might have been a little too persuasive in the "pros" part of my post! But hey, now you all know how I feel.
Very well said Anon. Thank you!
I had not heard about this, but have an aversion to taking drugs of any kind…. especially considering all the drugs in the past that were supposed to be so safe…. ask any mother of a Thalidomide baby if she would do it over again.
All I can say is I would hesitate to take this stuff – I don't want anyone standing over my casket saying "Gosh, she was so young! But wow, look how thin she finally was!"
the bottom line: adderall is amphetamine. it is SPEED. it is a Schedule II drug. a drug's schedule reflects the abuse potential of the drug. Schedule II is the most restricted classification a legal drug (i.e., not an illicit street drug) can receive. it's on the same level as morphine because, like morphine, it is extremely addictive. as a further example, cocaine is also a Schedule II drug.
adderall is essentially the same chemical as the benzedrine of the 1930's and the prescription weight loss drugs of the 1970's. it does have a legitimate use for people with ADHD; for people with ADHD, amphetamine actually acts to calm and focus them. for other people, it produces an intense stimulant effect (increased physical and mental activity), often with a sense of euphoria (expansive mood, sense of grandeur). as with any drug of abuse, however, it takes more drug for the same effect after a short period of habitual use. eventually the euphoric high is lost and the user requires the drug just to function. the side effects become more pronounced with increased dosage. a particular concern with stimulants are compromised sleep and appetite. though it may seem like a great advantage not to "need" sleep or food, it only takes a couple of days of that behavior to lose touch with reality. it's possible to become psychotic as a result.
i've never commented on a blog post before, but i have personal experience with this drug exactly and have also watched family members suffer addiction to it. for every high, adderall extracts the price of an equally profound, incapacitating low.
this drug ravaged my life. i started using it to "get ahead" at an elite college and to "manage" my weight, so my intentions were not so different from yours or your friend's. i've been clean for over 4 years, but it was an intensive recovery process.
ultimately, the decision to seek "enhancement" with a drug like adderall is your own choice. who knows, maybe your experience would be different. my point is that there's no way of knowing beforehand whether you could use it "responsibly," like i suppose some minority of non-ADHD individuals may. once you try it, it's too late to turn back if you're one of the unlikely ones to quickly begin to need it. also, your friend's drug use is her own business, but procuring this drug under false pretenses (i.e., lying to the doctor) could have very serious consequences.
i only recently started reading your blog. but it seems like you have an awful lot in your life that you care about. it's worth thinking about whether what you think this drug can do for you is worth losing all that.
That practically said it all. I, being a prescribed daily adderall user, once went 7 days without eating, sleeping, or even drinking more than a cup of water so that i could get work done, and nearly drove myself into a depressive tailspin as I lost touch with reality and was forced by the medication to constantly think about unsolvable topics like the meaning of life (which was brought on by the depressive side-effect and so may not effect you in that way, but potentially cause depression in another). Adderall also has a terrible medication crash. I have gotten pounding headaches and fatigue within minutes of my come down, yet still unable to sleep. I personally think with the stress of a newborn, the anxiety side-effect might cause emotional problems (but that is just my unprofessional yet experienced opinion). Adderall can, and in my case does, cause unbelievable dry mouth, really elevated blood pressure (where the danger of death lies so getting your heart checked is a must) and with that comes dizziness, more agressive and inpatient mood or behavior, ticks (in my case now I have started to rub my tongue against the roof of my mouth, due to the added dry mouth, while medicated) and physical fatigue. One other thing is that adderall makes you go full speed ahead, meaning that you will get the job done and not likely think of others. Many feel impatient due to their speed and the lack of others on top of the already anxiety causing component of the medication, causing the user to be stressed and anxious in group activities. Despite all of these bad things, adderall made me lose 50 pounds in 3 months. I didn’t eat a thing during the week, yet this is what caused some of my physical crash and mental confusion after it wears off. I humbly recommend that if you do decide to use adderall, stay healthy with regular food, exercise, and sleep habits as well as drinking a lot of water. I wouldn’t recommend using it for the rest of your life, but man does it get the job done when you need it to. Measure your stress level and anxiety level when considering using it, but again some side effects might not occur in some users. My final advice is that you should enjoy those tough times, because without the tough times we can find it harder to appreciate the good ones. Who wants a medicated-induced high when you can experience life the way you were meant to, increased effort and all, and enjoy your stable mental health and the love of your family :).
I disagree. I have been prescribed stimulants since I was in 2nd grade (20+ years). Except for occasional periods of extreme fitness motivation (running one half marathon, once, doing a tough mudder, once) I have been on the heavy end of normal weight my entire life. I have also never taken more than 20mg a day, and usually only take 5 mg daily. I have never needed ever increasing doses to get the same “result”. It depends what result you are after though. If you are have it in your mind to use stimulants to “get ahead” to “manage your weight” you are going to have problems in your life before you start abusing prescription drugs. If taking adderall noticeably increases your feelings of anxiety, then take less! For that matter if you take it and feel “High” at all, you KNOW you are abusing it. All medication is designed for the purpose of relief, not adding a “high”. In this case it could be relief from extreme fogginess, confusion or lethargy. If you allow yourself to not eat or sleep for even one whole day, that points to problems with regulation and an inability to take care of yourself whether you are on medication or not. If you allow yourself to lose 50 pounds in 3 months, you know you are not being kind to yourself or engaging in psychologically healthy behavior. In these 2 anonymous cases, the problem is not with Adderall itself, but with the mindset of the user. I have known people diagnosed with ADHD who obsess about weight and exercise, take too much, push their doctors for increasing doses, and live in cycles of mania and depression. I also know people who have never been diagnosed with ADHD who sometimes use it to drive through the night safely, pull off a major presentation while having a fever, finish a final dissertation, or just use a low dose once or twice a week to relieve some mental fog and slightly improve performance. I can’t say that I judge people who don’t have ADHD, but use adderall as a tool to slightly improve their performance, life is hard all over. Adderall is not some magic pill that allows you to accomplish great feats with no effort, but it can be compared to having a pair of sneakers that are just perfect, or a fast computer. Regardless, all the problems that you had with running or with your work performance, per se, will still be there, but it might be a little easier. We all know that All healthy accomplishments are the result of slow and steady work. You can’t blame a pill or a drug for bad intentions and unhealthy choices.
I have been taking Adderall for over ten years for narcolepsy. I wonder what it is doing to me all the time but have found no viable alternatives (collapsing at any given moment from cataplexy is dangerous even if I decide to stay home and claim disability). I know that it is basically speed, but it has had fewer side effects for me than any other drug so far that I have tried. My immediate reactions to these posts, however, is that common sense tells us not to go for seven days (or two, or three, or four days) without sleep. If you find yourself having not slept for three days, stop taking it!
I’m pretty sure this drug has ruined my life- and that’s by only taking 20-40 mg Monday-Friday(for the past year).
The first 2 years that I took it, it was only for college, exams & projects. Then I got a full time job requiring me to Multi task (while still in school).
I now feel like I cannot do ANYTHING productive without an adderall. And sometimes if I take one 20 mg, I can’t even tell. This scares me.
On the weekends I try to take a break from adderall- but when I do, I won’t get out of the bed..sometimes I feel like I’ve been hot by a truck.
That practically said it all. I, being a prescribed daily adderall user, once went 7 days without eating, sleeping, or even drinking more than a cup of water so that i could get work done, and nearly drove myself into a depressive tailspin as I lost touch with reality and was forced by the medication to constantly think about unsolvable topics like the meaning of life (which was brought on by the depressive side-effect and so may not effect you in that way, but potentially cause depression in another). Adderall also has a terrible medication crash. I have gotten pounding headaches and fatigue within minutes of my come down, yet still unable to sleep. I personally think with the stress of a newborn, the anxiety side-effect might cause emotional problems (but that is just my unprofessional yet experienced opinion). Adderall can, and in my case does, cause unbelievable dry mouth, really elevated blood pressure (where the danger of death lies so getting your heart checked is a must) and with that comes dizziness, more agressive and inpatient mood or behavior, ticks (in my case now I have started to rub my tongue against the roof of my mouth, due to the added dry mouth, while medicated) and physical fatigue. One other thing is that adderall makes you go full speed ahead, meaning that you will get the job done and not likely think of others. Many feel impatient due to their speed and the lack of others on top of the already anxiety causing component of the medication, causing the user to be stressed and anxious in group activities. Despite all of these bad things, adderall made me lose 50 pounds in 3 months. I didn’t eat a thing during the week, yet this is what caused some of my physical crash and mental confusion after it wears off. I humbly recommend that if you do decide to use adderall, stay healthy with regular food, exercise, and sleep habits as well as drinking a lot of water. I wouldn’t recommend using it for the rest of your life, but man does it get the job done when you need it to. Measure your stress level and anxiety level when considering using it, but again some side effects might not occur in some users. My final advice is that you should enjoy those tough times, because without the tough times we can find it harder to appreciate the good ones.
Actually it is possible with a fair degree of accuracy to predict a person’s addiction potential. Psychiatrists and therapists have long established lists of risk factors and personality profiles for recognizing addiction prone individuals.
oops. "unlikely" should read "unlucky." typo.
Anonymous (2) – WOW. Thank you so much for taking the time to share that experience. I'm going to update my post with a request that everyone read your comment below.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through all that but I'm glad you are clean now. I had no idea that Adderall was so addictive – and on the same level as opiates.
Thank you again, friend.
People probably dont hear this much but adderall saved my life!! I struggled with depression and lack of focus, etc all through highschool…never read a book never did good on test and always felt tired..also I gained 100 lbs after highschool!! I did lose it after 4 years with weight watchers but when I did I was so terrified of getting big again I became bulemic BC I lost my self control on portions!! I also became depressed and started self medicating with alcohol (never realized I was actually an alcoholic until I saw a psychiatrist who was my miracal Dr!!! at 29 I was diagnosed with ADD , fibromialga and chronic fatique..I have also always had low blood pressure..my ortho Dr sent me to a psychiatrist who said he wanted me to start adder all…I was very worried because diet pills and all stimulant drugs have always given me headaches!! I started on Adderall XR 20mg and I never had the urge to drink again!! Also my blood pressure stays regular!! I have been addicted in the past to opiates and felt I needed more constantly!! I have never felt this way on adder all!! I still take the same dose each morning!!! I will say the first couple of weeks sleep and eating was hard!! I started a dose of melatonin to help!! I always take 2 days a week off (adderall vacays) so my body doesn’t become immune!!! IV been on it 4 years now and I am still on the same dose without the beginning side effects of no sleep n no appetite!! I feel like I found the medication that works perfect for me! Like my Dr said “you will know when you take it if you need it!!” When on hydros I could have NEVER gone 2 days without heck not even 2 hours!!! I took my adderall today at noon because I slept in and tonight I’m up late for me but without meletonin or anything I’m actually very very sleepy right now and trying not to fall asleep 🙂 with that said I strongly believe pain meds and alcohol and bulemia would have killed me if it wasn’t for adderral!!! My advice is to start with about 10mg of xr and try to get through the first month or so!!!
Wow, with all those exclamation points you just used, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were speeding. Calm down!!!!
I haven't ever taken Adderall, but I was on Dexedrine (aka dexteroamphetamine, one of the ingredients of Adderall) for a while a few years ago. After finding no medical cause for my crushing, endless fatigue, my doctor prescribed Dexedrine. The first day I was on it, I felt like I had been put on fast-forward – I was talking too quickly, walking too fast, and I could not sit still.
I stayed on Dexedrine for several weeks, and then my doctor and I agreed to stop the treatment because I was getting heart palpitations. Dexedrine did essentially hit the restart button – I haven't struggled with that severity of fatigue since I was on it.
That said, I cannot imagine living on Dexedrine, or any drug like it, all the time. It almost hurt to be that "on" all the time, and the heart palpitations were terrifying. It took away any sense I had of my natural limits – I worked out harder and longer than I should have, for example.
Don't use it off-label. And please, please don't use anything like this without medical supervision – it's just way too dangerous.
I thought about it, for a few minutes. As another naturally anxious person, I really don't need anything to ADD to that. I also am reminded of the (one) time I took No-Doz in college, so I could pull an all-nighter and write a paper. I ended up typing with my nose, 'cause I was SO HYPER and typing with my fingers was boring!
I think I'll skip the Adderall.
Sounds like the experience I had when I went on the natural thyroid hormone supplement. The downside: I had so much energy that I was scrubbing the tub at 10:30 at night. The up side: my house was never so clean. I kinda hated having to stop taking it.
Can you please tell me what natural thyroid supplement you were taking?
Yes please what was the thyroid med? I fall asleep on a derail. I could eat 2 large pizzas while on it too. I don’t know how people get addicted to this stuff. I have to try to remember to take it.
I am very sad for your friend, she is not herself. She is not even a more intense version of herself. Being on amphetamines creates thoughts and experiences that would not happen otherwise. If perceived reality were tree, you can imagine the quick growth of branches, each one an emotion/memory/activity/impulse, multiplying like bacteria. Then the drug wears off and the beautiful tree collapses in on itself.
ADHD can be misdiagnosed. The impulsiveness and distraction, can be symptoms of poor self-esteem, abuse, stress induced by lack of structure (erratic schedules, unpredictable income) and bipolar disorder. Imagine people low on the bipolar spectrum, those who function everyday w/o meds but have enough money or people in their life who can work around quasi-erratic behavior. Common prescription amphetamines can magnify grandiosity, impulsiveness, frenetic behavior.
Imagine cycling for days or weeks on end of being up for 36, 50, 60 hrs, then crashing. Not everyone will go through this, but it can happen.
We just don't know what the long term effects of these drugs. I absolutely believe that they create physiological and chemical changes in the brain. I believe that the longer one stays on amphetamines, the more cell functioning is damaged.
Imagine going through your day without the 'little things' in life, a squirrel, your kid's smile, a free quarter…making you happy. That's what withdrawal is, that blank feeling. It's very similar to, possibly the same chemical process as PTSD. Nothing is enough, nothing can be enough to give you those wonderful highs–or even normal feelings that you felt before.
If you're reading this and considering taking any amphetamine, PLEASE TRY TO GET HELP FOR YOUR PROBLEMS ELSEWHERE.
Go to therapy, call a friend, but please, the bottom line is that you are worth it. Be your own best friend. You owe it to yourself to respect your body, to respect the life you own.
Those beautiful trees of experience you feel on amphetamines will turn into wild thorny bramble, like that scene in Sleeping Beauty. Those great wonderful ideas and 'I'm the queen of the universe' feelings turn into mountains of debt and regrettable encounters with people who don't respect you.
When you take amphetamines to get thin or be more productive, you're just buying into an illusion.
Sometimes it's seemed that doctors I've seen in the past have been a little too eager to prescribe medications, and in my darker moments I've wondered how easy it would be to convince them I need a prescription for something like this. I don't know why I haven't gone there, possibly fear of losing control.
I've recently been taking a psychotherapy personal development course, and have learned a technique known as "anchoring", where with training you are able to feel more or less anything you want to feel — happy, focused, enthusiastic — at will, by anchoring the emotion to a physical stimulus. But even that comes with a warning to ignore your body's messages at your peril.
Have you ever read More, Now, Again by Elizabeth Wurtzel?
I've never tried Adderall myself, given a strong aversion to medication of any kind. Not to mention pills hit me really, really hard (hello, Tylenol PM = tranquilizers for bears).
I do know, however, that it was sorta a common practice during undergrad for students to share their Adderall before a big exam or such. You could buy a pill relatively cheap. And it certainly did give those kids that leg up.
Isn't it interesting what we do to ourselves? Anyways. My advice (like most other folks on this blog) is to stay far away from that stuff unless you have a doc's recommendation. Better safe than sorry/dead/addicted.
unlike most of the commenters (with the exception of anon) i do use adderall, but have had a very different experience.
i have not experienced any negative side effects at all, and personally love it. in fact, i dont even feel tired when it wears off, i just go back to my normal self. as a college student at a top tier school adderall definitely gives me a leg up, but the main reason i use it is because im a writer. on addy i can generate a hundred pages of fiction in a few hours, then go back and edit it later. the quality of my writing and its sheer volume alone is astounding. what i mean is that i still write the same (not horrible drug addled bull) but can just make so much more of it.
and no, looking banging in my bikini does not hurt either, although i have always been thin.
what i like about it is that because it is legal for adhd, it is regulated, as opposed to a street drug like cocaine which could be laced with something. adderall is also cheaper than said street drug.
honestly, ive done my research and i dont feel its any more dangerous than lighting up while on birth control (hello, blood clots). and i think when most people (but not all) say its dangerous are really just ethically opposed and trying to scare people out of using it.
that's what is comes down to for me: ethics. as an ethical vegan my morals are a big part of my life, but i dont push them on others either. if meat's your thing, chow down. i think the same philosophy should apply to the adderall debate.
so is adderall safe? i dont think its any more harmful than other legal drugs.
is it ethical? really, that your own business.
I am really against this kind of pill to be honest. I feel that at certain times in life when you might need a pick me up it can be beneficial. However a pill can not fix your problems.
wow.
My niece is in college in NYC and says that so so many of her peers use this drug to stay awake and be "super achievers"
I shall remain a regular achiever.
of course it's tempting to have those fabulous "on" days every day. But it's also tempting to fly through a pink sky on a unicorn – that doesn't mean I'm gonna drop acid, though. I'm for Adderall if you have ADHD. I'd be lying if I said I never thought about what it would be like to take it (as a non-ADHDer) but I'm not going there. Too much to lose.
Charlotte, I don't want you to think that your post came across a little too much on the pro side, and I doubt that anyone who hasn't thought about taking it would be swayed to visit the pharmacy because of your comments.
Like I said, I first heard about Adderall in a health magazine. The article was supposed to be about how bad and dangerous it was, but they had a few too many stories about people who were using it without any bad side effects. They were thin, had this amazing energy, and were getting the drug for cheap through insurance. At the time, I was writing my dissertation, planning a wedding, training for a marathon, packing for a cross-country move, and trying to raise a kid. I would have kicked puppies for the extra energy.
Of course, this was a HEALTH magazine, and they were making it sound like Adderall was God's gift or something. The article really did read along the lines of 'here are these 10 great things about Adderall, but there is a tiny chance it could hurt you, so don't take it.' Who knows though… gastric bypass has a bigger risk of side effects including death. Maybe Adderall will be approved for weight loss in the future and doctors will be handing them out like candy.
I had not even heard of this drug & no, not gonna get it.. nope! Scary! I is amazing all the side effects & warnings for prescription drugs. Every time I see a commercial & hear all the side effects, I always wonder if I rather have the condition it is treating then the side effects of the drug to help it.
Marianne – Thanks for sharing your experience; I remember when Dexadrine was really popular among my friends. Strangely I don't think it's around anymore? Maybe because too many people felt like you did…
Azusmom & Merry – You guys crack me up! Still though, sounds a bit too much "Girl, Interrupted" for me…
Anonymous (3) – Thanks so much for taking the time to express your thoughts. It sounds like you've either had personal experience with it or know someone who has!
Alabama – I have added "anchoring" to my list of topics to research and "More, Now, Again," to my Library hold list! Thank you!!
cookingincambridge – I'm a "responder" to meds as well. I've only had morphine once in my life and I responded so well that I decided I ought never take it again, lol!
Jenna – Thank you so much for taking the time to share your positive experience with it! You sound a lot like my friend – that is pretty much what she said too. I'm beginning to think that different people may just have different experiences with the drug. For some it's just an aid they can stop and start when they need to. For others it's addicting. I think the problem is you don't know which one you're going to be until you try it…
Miz – and you just reminded me of my post a week or so ago where I was complaining about how nobody gets to be average anymore! Hey self – listen! /facepalm
Leslie – "pink sky on a unicorn"… hee! How are you so funny and sane at the same time? My humor seems to stem from my INsanity;)
KUrunner – SERIOUSLY! I read that recent Glamour mag article on it and had the exact same reaction. Like they're telling me it's bad but really it sounds pretty darn awesome.
Okay, so you started to pull me into the "sounds good" side, while a large part of my brain went "IT'S SPEED, AND YOU DON'T NEED IT".
And there is no reason to ever lie to your doctor. If you ask about taking them on a temporary basis after the baby's out (are you going to breastfeed? If so, I wouldn't take any perscription I didn't need), mention how you feel about wanting to be yourself after giving birth. I'm sure your doctor would already be aware of post-pregnancy Charlotte, and may have a pill you could take. But don't lie to score drugs.
I'm sort of lucky (depending on how you look at it) that I have a minor heart flutter…I can't really consdider these drugs seriously for myself. As a biochemist and self professed chemistry geek, I've looked into this a lot, as I have a few friends who rave about it as well.
I will say – although I've seen it help people with ADD focus, and for the average person it will improve your energy and cognition, I am against it – because it's not you. Bottom line is – it's an amphetamine…it's not safe to take for every day normal people – it's a prescription! It's an enhancement drug and noone know yet just waht prolonged exposure to it can do to you…and what happens when your body gets used to having it all the time and you stop taking it.
To say it isn't addictive is, to me, false. Hearing the way your friend raved about it shows the emotional addiction it can cause.
And I'm sure it would work…people wouldn't take it if it didn't…but part of me wants a level playing field. To me, I want to be the best I can be…but as me. There is a way to get that mental focus and energy naturally, through diet and exercise and everyday exhaustion and scatterbrained times are not something you medicate. You adjust your life to compensate.
We're so ready to take pills for anything and everything to "fix" things. We need to look after ourselves better.
Soapbox away now…:)
This is what I used to take and decided to "go it alone" with my ADHD. I took this for about 5 years, and I've been off it for almost 2 years. I truly feel like it was life-changing and taught me how to "organize" myself. I still maintain lists and *try* to do all the organized things I used to do when I took it. My first week off I was a little weepy (mostly just scared), but fine. Like anonymous said it just calmed me right down (side note: 2 cups of coffee calm me right down too), so I honestly never thought of it as something dangerous. It just helped me focus and stay on task.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to take it again on occasion when things get really hectic, but I'm also stubborn as hell and like to prove things to myself. I still loose crap, forget assignments, and get distracted way too easily but I'm making it! I think if prescribed properly it can work wonders for someone who truly needs it.
I would love to hear more about how you have learned to “organize yourself” and manage ADHD symptoms without medications. My doctor prescribed me adderrall and has helped me so much in the past 10+ years, I feel so normal and it’s wonderful. And then if I don’t take it it’s so hard to do little everyday routine things, and I get so irritable, restless, rude, and lost. How do you deal with the fact that organization, coping skills, and plans go out the window so easily when you are a slave to your immediate situation? I would love to hear how you have worked through it, I am hoping to have a baby in a few years and want to be able to accomplish bare minimum daily habits without medications. And hopefully without feeling overwhelmed and overstimulated all the time, like I feel when I don’t take anything, because it’s not a happy way to go through life…
FWIW – a good cardio session does wonders for clearing my mind. It may not be as convenient, but it sure beats not knowing what the future would hold for me after taking that little pill for so many years.
If you were looking for one more thing to sway you to the no side, in your case in particular (well assuming you're going to breastfeed, I guess you only said nighttime feedings…) do you want your baby to have that? Or even think down the road, would you be ok with your daughter taking that when she's old enough? then you shouldn't either.
Charlotte, I'll slap you silly if you start taking this! Love ya!!
I have at times thought that adderal sounded mildly appealing, but in the end I would rather accept myself as I am than take unnecessary medicine. I have taken meds for anxiety in the past, but my attitude towards that is when anxiety starts messing up my life, I see about treating it (with either meds, talk therapy, or both).
I think the fogginess is a sign that you need to rest and recover, not push yourself to take medicine or do more.
And one one hand, the experience your friend describes sounds pretty good, but on the other, it sounds awfully manic.
I would love to be effortlessly thin and feel "on" all the time. But I'm one of those people who is desperately wary of any and all medications, especially those that alter a person's mood/habits, so could never see myself taking something like Adderall even if it is amazing and some scientists think it's great. Actually, I kind of think any move to make yourself less human — that is, less fragile and imperfect — seems extremely dangerous and weird to me. Not to mention unnecessary and frightening. If a person has a serious inability to pay attention or get work done or whatever, then I'm in favor of a medicine that will correct a problem, but taking something just to tweak yourself, for me, is bad news bears.
This is so tempting. As somoene who is trying to juggle so many things and often feels abesent minded because I am spread too thin, this sounds like a perfect fix. However, I don't think I could do it. I managed to get through college and enjoyed some recreational substances, but now I can barely take cold medicine without a bad reaction. After my c-sections I had to beg them to let me take tylenol with codeine because the vicodin made me feel worse than the pain. Add in possible health risks and I guess I will take the absent mindedness.
I just wish that our society would realize that there is nothing wrong with relaxing. Being an over achiever is so glorified and god forbid you are not, you are considered lazy. Oh well, back to multitasking! 🙂
Delurking to say, "Please don't go there if you'll be breastfeeding," but I was beaten to the punch. 🙂
I don't have a problem with people taking drugs for medical problems that they legitimately have, either. (I have to for my diabetes, even having gotten back to a reasonable weight, exercise, and proper diet.) Have I taken stimulants? Well, if you count coffee and tea (as your religion does), then yes, I suppose I have. I did take some No Doz in college once or twice for all-nighters, but I didn't find it any more effective than a bunch of coffee. For me, personally, "finessing the truth" for a doctor wouldn't sit right. (Being a mom and career person, though, darn straight it's tempting!)
Of course, I probably sound like a total prig; but fear can be a good thing sometimes. I'm afraid I'd get addicted to something like that, because I've seen addictive patterns in my family background: tobacco and alcohol in my parents and grandparents, food in myself.
I appreciate Jenna's perspective but I found her comment a little disturbing for a couple of reasons:
1. She said it wasn't any more harmful than other legal drugs. Frankly, that's a pretty low bar. Many legal drugs, when used "off label" as it is in the cases we're talking about here, can be harmful or fatal. Plus, this is the FDA we're talking about.
2. The phrase "On x drug, I can do…" really disturbs me. I can't imagine how many addictions begin with that phrase.
Generally, I think relying on any substance to enhance our performance where little or no effort is required on our own is harmful.
Even if it doesn't physically harm us, we come to rely on it for a level of performance we can't live up to. When we get into a situation where we can't access it, then what?
In medical school, during my family medicine rotation, I was assigned to an older doctor's office for a few weeks. He had a HUGE jar of Dexedrine (I think), or some other amphetamine, that he said he used to give patients as a diet aid before it was taken off the market. He probably still uses it. Sure speed works, so does cocaine.
There are real cases of ADHD where drugs like Ritalin or adderall are very helpful. I'm sure they are overused with kids today. I do not support adults use of these drugs. Adults can manage their issues with better methods, if they choose to.
We, as a society have generally decided to just say yes to drugs. Now we pay the price for this unfortunate choice. Instead of doing less, we do more as the solution.
It is tempting, especially since I'm in law and probably…1/4-1/3 of my class uses Adderall recreationally (just to improve their studying habits). I completely understand why, as we are given 1000 or so pages to read a week, but I personally just don't think it's worth it. Not only do I already have anxiety issues, I think that it's just dishonest to use it for school purposes. Plus, after reading the anonymous's comment about addiction and whatnot, I'm even more certain of my decision.
Plus, most of the kids that use it during exams just look like they're on a constant bender, circles under their eyes, yet their eyes are all awake and sorta glazed. Very weird.
Charlotte, I think you are a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for, and you need to believe that you'll deal with the post-partum issues in a way that is healthy and involves not self-medicating. Plus, you've mentioned in the past your distaste for anti-depressants, so what makes you think this will be any better?
My husband takes Ritalin for his ADD and I believe he was on Adderall for awhile before that. I've been tempted to try it out (especially because when I was in college some therapist told me he thought I had ADD…I don't think I believe him, though) but I've never done it for various reasons. My husband does refer to his Ritalin as "speed". Sure, it might make me more focused, but I don't really want to find out what else it might make me.
My husband takes Ritalin for his ADD and I believe he was on Adderall for awhile before that. I've been tempted to try it out (especially because when I was in college some therapist told me he thought I had ADD…I don't think I believe him, though) but I've never done it for various reasons. My husband does refer to his Ritalin as "speed". Sure, it might make me more focused, but I don't really want to find out what else it might make me.
My husband takes Ritalin for his ADD and I believe he was on Adderall for awhile before that. I've been tempted to try it out (especially because when I was in college some therapist told me he thought I had ADD…I don't think I believe him, though) but I've never done it for various reasons. My husband does refer to his Ritalin as "speed". Sure, it might make me more focused, but I don't really want to find out what else it might make me.
Tricia (and everyone else who asked): Yes I will definitely be breast-feeding and no I won't take adderall while nursing. Heck, I won't even use cold medicine when I'm nursing!
Geosomin – Good point about looking for the quick fix.
Colleen – Good for you for going au natural! Def. no side effects to worry about from a healthy diet and exercise! PS> cracks me up that coffee settles you. Caffeine (I don't drink coffee) WIRES me.
Gretchen & Randi – Thanks for the tough love ladies! No, I wouldn't take anything while bf'ing so no worries there. Please don't smack me Gretchen!
Shelly – Great point about listening to my body's signals. I mean, yeah, I'm exhausted for a reason…
Karen – how did you know how much we love the Bad News Bears around here?? 😉 You make a good point.
Erika – you crack me up! Good point about more is not always better.
Pubsgal – "fear can be a good thing" – SO TRUE.
M – great points, all of them. Esp. the one about mental addiction.
Dr. J – Excellent point about adults having other options with which to manage themselves. And I know those options, really I do!
M – I kinda felt like it was dishonest too and not just in a school setting.
Erin – That would be rough for me, having it in the house! Thankfully I don't have that kind of temptation.
I've taken it twice, both times for moving. It's a long, special day on that stuff, I can't imagine it for casual use, or daily, but if I need 16 hours to do something physical that I really hate, it's very helpful. Not everything has to be abused, and even speed has a time and place. The difference between toxin and therapeutic can get awfully close sometimes, which doesn't mean the therapeutic isn't valid. I don't know about your friend thiking it's not addictive, that doesn't seem right.
Hi there,
I never comment on this blog, but I read it all the time and have found it to be extremely valuable.
I just wanted to share my input on adderall… I have been on this drug for a few years now (prescription for ADD)… and for me, at least, it has not been such a magical pill. Maybe it influences my weight more than i realize, but in general, it has not "made me thin". I've been dealing with an eating disorder for the past 14 years, and this pill has not made me lose a whole chunk of weight or keep it off without trying. Maybe my body has adapted to it? I'm not sure. At first I had trouble sleeping and lost my appetite, but now, my energy levels are rock bottom. My doctor had also warned me when I first went on it that if i started losing a lot of weight, she would pull me off it immediately. I can't lie, the ed'd part of me thought, "YESSS!!!!"… but that never happened. I lost a little at first but then it just baselined there…
I also have to agree that it is addicting. Especially from a psychological viewpoint. On days I don't take it, I feel even more exhausted than usual. At times I started playing around with my doses, hoping that if I upped my dosage, I could lose more weight. When I forget to take a dose or on the few occasions I've tried to reduce my dosage, I have MAJOR anxiety that I am going to gain a ton of weight quickly. This pill has definitely messed with my mind. Even though I say it does not impact my weight that much, the thought of going off it is terrifying. It is something I have been wanting to go off of for years (i have a lot of anxiety regarding the side effects) but the "what ifs" of weight gain upon stopping have won out every time. Has anyone out there stopped using the prescription? Did your weight balloon up?
Sorry for the ramble. I guess I could have just summarized by saying, this pill doesn't necessarily make everyone feel the way your friend described. I certainly have not had that experience with it… I only wish I had such experiences.
thanks for a great blog!
My first thought? Not for you. (Or me, for that matter.) Now, in full disclosure I fall into the drugs-are-overprescribed-and-overused camp, but it seems to me that for somoene with a propensity toward addictive, complusive behaviors to voluntarily take an addictive substance for "enhancement" is totally nuts. At least, that's the stance I've taken for myself, as someone with said propensities.
I don't know, Charlotte. It would be one thing if you needed it to treat something specific, and if you'd tried other things to no avail, but to take it just to perk you up and increase weight loss . . . I think it's playing with fire.
Kinda reminds me of a time when a doctor gave me a rx for an anxiety drug without asking me if perhaps my hectic lifestyle was producing said anxiety attacks.
Took it for a week, made me feel nauseated every morning. Quit the stuff and tinkered with my schedule and goals instead.
Now with baby #3 to arrive in a few weeks, I'm a bit worried at how I will manage that fog, especially after the help my friends and hubby will give me at first dwindles away. I have made a few not-so-joking comments about getting antidepressants for post partum depression before I leave the hospital, though I probably won't use anything while nursing. I guess I'll have to embrace humility and admit I can't do it all and ask for some help from time to time.
To Anonymous who was worried about going off of Adderall. You can do it. It will be a challenge, but if you have the right team in place, you will succeed. (Please take this with grain of salt, as I am not a doctor, but have close personal experience.)
1.) Get a new or another doctor.
2.) Get a therapist.
You basically need to identify your major issues with them and go from there. Being on Adderall could be covering up/exasperating underlying problems.
If you're doing this all alone, get a personal support team of friends. Re-adjust your schedule, goals, always have a plan b.
Avoid all other stimulants, no coffee (even decaf stuff), tea, soda or even a lot of chocolate.
Your overall all goal is to be healthy. When making a decision, ask yourself, "How is this (action/inaction/thought)going to help me? How much time am I willing to devote to it?" The more you are less reliant on the drug, the easier it will be to start answering these questions.
Start moving your body, walk, march in place, sway, swing your arms in circles. Start small, you can create your own energy without a pill. YOU CAN DO THIS.
*A note on weight…while initially you may have lost weight, that plateau can be normal. Amphetamines can amplify starvation-binge cycles. Go hours without food, then when it wears off, the hunger dragon strikes.
The number one reason I stay the heck away from drugs like Adderall? I'm a neuroscience nurse.
Every person I have seen–and I mean every single one–under the age of 30, who has had an arterial bleed in their brain (big, bad, scary, damaging deal) has been either on Adderall, methamphetamine, or cocaine. Or a combination of two of the three. (These are the folks without congenital malformations, understand.)
For reals, people: these were high-achieving students (mostly women, come to think of it) like Jenna, who used uppers recreationally, as a study aid. None of them had preexisting problems with their brains, but they sure got 'em once the drugs kicked in and raised their blood pressure. High BP = weak spots in arteries = aneurysms in the brain.
For people who really need the drug, Adderall can be a lifesaver. For recreational use? No bangin' bikini body is worth the six-inch-long incision you're going to have in your scalp after we clip your bleeding aneurysm. I know this sounds like one of those "your brain on drugs" commercials, but Geez Louise, did I get worried after I noticed the pattern.
What clued me in? The nineteen-year-old woman who asked me how soon she could go back to taking Adderall during her discharge after an aneurysm clipping. *That's* a powerfully addictive drug.
I credit Adderall for giving me my first orgasms. Ready to buy some black market pills from the nearest college campus? Read my story first. I took Adderall for three years until it started to ruin my life. Everything started out great. I was diagnosed with ADHD and taking a stimulant solved all my problems for awhile. It was so great to be able to stay focused, follow-through on tasks, and set goals that I now knew I could achieve. I had tons of energy to deal with my three children and stressful job. When I first started the meds, I weighed 220 lbs (!!!) and got down to 150 lbs within a year. Adderall completely killed my appetite and freed me from a lifelong addiction to carbs. To top it all off, I started having my first orgasms on Adderall!! This was no coincidence, I had been in a healthy, loving relationship for 9 years and it was not for lack of trying and creativity that I had not experienced the "Big O". I was a walking poster child for this miracle drug. Until it stopped working.
About a year and a half into it, I started noticing problems. I think the problems were there from the beginning (I talked like Charlotte's friend) but the side effects were bearable to me until that point. To try make a long story short, I probably didn't have ADD in the first place but instead had a mild form of bipolar disorder. In the end, the appetite suppressant side effect no longer worked, I gained all the weight back, had full blown manic-depressive episodes, felt like I had no conscience, was detached from my emotions, and suffered from debilitating insomnia and heart "flutters".
I finally got off the drug when I realized it was no longer working and I was a total bitch to live with. As far as it being addictive, it was not for me. I found instant relief as soon as I quit. People have been using the stimulants found in Adderall and Ritilin since the 1970's and they are NOT as physically addictive as opiates. However, that is not to say they are not dangerous, especially for people who are at risk for depression, bipolar, or any other mood disorder.
Don't be jealous of these stimulated superwomen, Charlotte, their edge is only temporary, trust me. I am so excited to be able to share a first-hand experience! Somehow you always seem to post things that I just HAVE to comment on.
P.S. Somehow I miraculously (muscle memory?) retained my multiple orgasmic talent (praise the Lord!) post-Adderall. If I could have chosen one Adderall "gift" to take with me, that was my first choice! I am now finding peace and health through diet and exercise.
My goodness- there is such a buzz on this subject (Sorry, couldn't resist).
Charlotte- I have been the girl who jumps on the rx drug bandwagon and it always backfires. Remember Fen-Phen (or is it Phen-fen, can't remember) Luckily there were no cardiac repercussions in my case, but I was lucky.
Sounds like Adderall is addictive for some, and who knows- it's probably one of those drugs where you need more and more of it as time goes by. Very common.
You don't need it. Don't do it. You'll muddle through and yes, you might be in a fog but you are an exceptional human being even being in that fog. Embrace the fog. now get some rest!
Georgia – I read ALL the comments on my blog, no matter when they were posted so no worries about me not getting this:) Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It was quite eye opening. I'm sorry it was such a harrowing experience but SO glad you at least got to keep your orgasms!
WHAT a conversation you've generated here, Charlotte. You have a knack for bringing out great comments.
As an anxious person who used to love speed, half a lifetime ago, I guess my input here is that the hardest part of all drug use is what it's like when you stop. I was so used to being up that I had no idea how to be middle or low, mood & energy-wise. It took me years to learn how to have a full range of behavior. That sucked – I felt really . . . behind the curve, developmentally. I'm sure Adderall is a good time, for those it doesn't outright harm, but it won't last forever. And then, ouch.
While we're on the topic – forget about Provigil, too!
Jo – Thanks for contributing your nursing experiences! Seriously, I got chills just reading about it.
Julia – Yeah, some of the articles I read mentioned Provigil in the same group but I hadn't done much research on it. I take it's a stimulant too? Scary stuff – I'm glad you came out of it ok!!
Thank you for writing about Adderall. I think people need to know more about the drug to keep them from taking it for the wrong reasons. I'm an adderall user and have been for the past 4 years. I lied to my doctor after reading an article about Nicole Richie using Adderal for weight loss. I told my doctor I had ADD and trouble staying alert at work. At first, the effects of adderall were great. I lost a lot of weight quickly and was getting tons accomplished. But then I became very high strung. I had an emotional break-down for which I spent 5 days in the hospital. It was tough but I recovered and started therapy. I stayed away for a bit but then found myself missing the drug. I started taking it again, in a way that I have convinced myself is "responsible". I take smaller amounts and don't use it every day. But the truth is, I never really needed it to begin with–I wasn't fat or unfocused. I just wanted to try it and see if I could lose 5 pounds…and now I can't live without it. I'm a lost cause, unfortunately, because I don't want to stop taking adderall. I know it's dangerous to my health and heart. I'm a marathon runner and even today, I felt like my heart was over-working during my training run. I worry that one day I'll collapse during a run…but this worry is over-powered by my addiction. That said, I'm relieved to know there are people like you who care to question this drug and urge people to consider the consequences of taking it. I just hope they listen. Adderall is a mystery drug that clasps its hands around your neck and never lets go. I hope this helps your reader.
Man am I glad I read that anon comment because after 8 mos postpartum (for the hazy fog I live in, not the weight) I'm thinking, maybe I need that? But I'll take my fog. Can't wait till you join me there:-)
I used over the counter diet/caffeine pills in college (while also downing coffee/diet soda/energy drinks/etc) on and off (I joke that it's the only way I took 21 credits, worked, did theatre, and still maintained my GPA, but it's pretty much true). However, ever since then – I'm pretty much anti medication (for myself, everyone else can make their own choices) unless absolutely needed. As for my weight, if I can't reach it through sane calorie restriction and exercise, I don't see any reason to take anything, because I wouldn't keep doing it.
As for advice – I would say that if you're as careful as you are about what goes in your body and care for it enough that you exercise regularly, this is probably counter-intuitive to your health. Just sayin'.
Hi,
Long time reader, first time commenter…
I know folks who use this stuff (crushed up and snorted) in place of speed when they can't score any.
Yes it will reduce your appetite, yes it will sharpen your concentration, and it will make you "on" 24/7 – a more energetic version of yourself, however, if you use it long term for these purposes it will also; mess with your hormones, give you acne, severe mood swings, dry brittle hair, and insomnia. In other words – please don't think it's a consequence free answer to your prayers.
Love,
Kat
I guess I'll have to be the "odd gal out" here and say that it's pretty obvious that if someone can get even a slight "high" or euphoric feeling from Adderall, then it's a pretty strong sign you don't have ADHD, and shouldn't be taking it in the first place.
I take it for severe ADHD, and I've had none of these positive or negative "side effects" because my brain chemistry works differently than a non-ADHD brain does. My brain does not properly utilize nor metabolize dopamine (the "feel good/positive reinforcement" chemical which naturally occurs in your brain), and to a lesser extent serotonin. This means all those feelings of euphoria that a non-ADHD person gets, I get NONE of it. The only benefit I derive from taking a pill the rest of my life is being able to remember where I had planned to go after I got into the car.
Is it addictive? For a non-ADHD person, certainly! You already have dopamine (lucky you), and this increases it more so you get positive reinforcement… but for a person with ADHD, I doubt it seriously, there's no high, no reinforcement, when I take Adderall, I feel what I believe non-ADHD people feel everyday… calm & sane. I don't believe a true ADHD person can become addicted because I personally run through a vicious cycle of forgetting to take my med for days at least once(+) every couple weeks… it'll be days before I can remember to take it, so that I can remember to take it.
I'll feel the old symptoms, and yes, I usually do remember after the first day of not finding my keys, or anything else not glued to me, but because I haven't taken it, I forget again in a matter of 5 minutes or less because I'm already on to something else before I can follow through. I don't go through withdrawals… my life was previously a huge symptom of not having enough dopamine in my brain naturally, and my ability to continuously forget to take it kind of rules out that whole addiction theory… remember, I don't have dopamine, therefore I don't get the reinforcement that a class II drug would give someone without ADHD.
I really wish people would stop trying to get it for diets, because that is just a dumb idea all the way around for your health, heart, and mental sanity. Not to mention that it makes those who really need it to SURVIVE one day to the next have to go through the "eyes of interrogation" every time we get our Rx refilled at the pharmacy.
It took two full years of research and trials before I exhausted all other options, & agreed I really needed to take a pill the rest of my life), I dreaded the "stories" I had heard of people having great energy but then came the jittery, anxious, & euphoric feelings (along with the physical risks)… but instead, after I took my first dose, I fell asleep, and in the middle of the day no less!!!
I called my psych when I woke up, and he sort of half-laughed and said well I guess we can be sure you definitely have ADHD, and then we began working on my dosage so I wouldn't fall asleep after. Apparently I fell asleep because my brain had never had the "calm, quietness and sense of sanity" that having enough dopamine to function properly gives a person.
About the weight… I wish!
No help for me there either, it did at first, slowly for the first 4 months, bit then I never lost another pound since.
Maybe I'm a rare case, but I don't think so. Many people with ADHD have to hear all the horror stories about problems & side-effects, because 90% of the people who are experiencing them never belonged on the drugs in the first place, or at the very least, should have explored other options and used the medication as a LAST resort, not a first.
There are many other treatment methods that work well for cases of mild to moderate ADHD, that don't include any unnecessary drugs. I know because as a Nurse, I tried them all in an attempt to avoid the stigma that comes with taking Adderall.
I just began taking adderall for newly diagnosed adult ADD and PTSD ( I am actually reading this blog as research for side effects, weight loss, etc). I am like the person above who actually doesn’t get any rush from any speed like drugs and actually becomes calm. Actually, pain medications don’t work for me either as I am somewhat opiate intolerant. What will knock out an elephant is like taking aspirin for me ( I woke up on the middle of my rhynoplasty under vercet while the doctor was hammering away… Absolute buzzkill). Apparently my saratonin levels are so high that I metabolize drugs ( not food though unfortunately ) at a crazy fast rate and therefore they ” blow through” my liver in minutes instead of hours). I always felt like doctors were looking at me like I was a drug addict as I would have to take twice as much pain meds to even get any relief at all. I usually just bared through the pain and thought of myself like a freak. I learned why this is the case when I was diagnosed with ADD and PTSD and it was a relief to find out I wasn’t a freak.
Anyway, I digress (see my ADD trait) … Ever since I began taking adderall I have been less anxious but also calmer and less depressed and lethargic. I don’t feel speedy at all but I know that I never did anytime I took phentermine to lose a few extra pounds. Phentermine made me feel a bit more “normal and productive” like most people are on a regular basis. However, anytime I stopped taking the phentermine I would I back to being blah. I can not lie, i do hope I lose a little weight from taking adderall as i always seemed to be able to with phentermine, or at least have the gumption and ability to not be so depressed and such a procrastinator. I won’t go to gym, which was always my happy place, because I am so tired and disgusted with myself. Hopefully that will change now..
I finally have a little energy and not just panic, forgetfulness and feeling “low”. I hope it does raise my metabolism and help me lower my weight about 15 lbs, but that is because I have body issues and I do hold my happiness and/or self esteem to how I feel I look in a pair of jeans. It will be my luck that I will be the one person on earth who will gain weight while taking adderall but I am hoping not.
Anyway, my point of this reply, I am one of those people who feel that if there is something that makes you feel better it can’t be that bad. I really need the medicine and am very excited to feel normal for the first time in my life. It is worrisome to me reading how the meds only worked for awhile for them. I hope it is not the case for me. I wish I had known about my disorder 30 years ago because I think I would have been a more productive student, daughter, employee, wife and most of all mother. I always thought my anxiety attacks were due to scars from my childhood. Now I found that it also is due to the ADD and these meds are going to help. I hope that I can take them forever and that the next 40 years of my life will be happier and more productive than the first 40. (I also hope that it will make me not have to worry about my weight and that I will feel attractive again in anything I wear). I am tired of working my ass off to be chubby. I am also tired of not fulfilling my potential of being an outstanding, productive, happy addition to this world. I am hoping to feel like each day is a good day and No longer wait for that negative shoe to drop.
I think if you don’t have ADD. And need to lose a few pounds and want extra energy, maybe go to a weight loss clinic and get on some phentermine and protein shakes for a couple months. I get needing extra energy, assistance on curbing cravings, and speeding up metabolism in order to lose some pounds to feel comfortable in own skin. People who say just cut back on food and exercise a bit more and you will lose weight really irritate me. I can work out very hard 2 hrs a day, eat 1200 calories a day without cheating and just be able to maintains weight. Like I said, no metabolism. However, Phentermine made me have a little more energy, boosted my metabolism, and made me be more productive than usual. It never felt like speed to me like it does for my friends. It sounds like it has the same effect as Adderall does without the bad side effects. My friends who don’t have ADD swear by it and I have watched many people lose copious amounts of weight in a short amount of time. It isn’t straight amphetamines like Adderall so I am guessing it won’t be as hard on your system and has less side effects. In the short run, it may be your ticket to weight loss and energy more so than someone else’s ADD meds. But who knows.
I am sorry for this rambling reply to your blog. I must thank you for posting your eloquently written blog, as your story as well as all the replies have been both informative and entertaining. It is helpful to find a place where you can see that you are not alone, an emotional or physical freak, and have a chance at feeling normal. I don’t understand why people with ADD would stop taking Adderall if It made them feel better. In my eyes, the chaos is so much worse, but I haven’t been on it for years so ask me then how I feel.
Good luck with your quest and for your new baby!
I came across this blog this morning while looking for case studies on adderal induced anorexia. Very good information in the comment section, and I realize I’m very late to the conversation, but I would like to correct a few misused terms. This post isn’t to show off, but without an adequate conceptualization of what clinical terms truly mean, researching the use of adderal is somewhat an exercise in futility.
Adderal is an addictive substance, without question. Any substance that causes a rapid change in neuro chemistry has the potential to lead one into an addiction. A lot of the information here is accurate, but without understanding the clinical distinction between “addiction” and “dependance,” a good deal of disagreement has been generated. Addiction is a purely psychological drive to acquire a substance or behavior which will stimulate the dopamine-reward pathway. Dependance refers to a physiological disturbance that occurs when a substance that the body has grown accustomed to is suddenly withdrawn. Adderal sustation does not lead to physical withdrawal, only a psychological urge to continue its use. In comparison, opiates cause both in addicts and only physical withdrawal in long term non-abusers.
As for the mechanism of adderal, it acts as a dopamine/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. ADHD is not caused by a lack of dopamine. If it were, L-dopa would be drug of choice. True dopamine deficiency causes problems with muscle coordination, which is evident in Parkinson’s.
To be frank, adderal will improve the energy, concentration, and task orientation of all people. Adderal’s effect on norepinephrine levels will also decrease hunger, raise the heart rate/bp, and cause altered sleep patterns in all people.
The side effects of adderal outweigh the benefits by a very large margin. It is highly advised that only those with a legitimate medical need use it.
To anonymous “odd girl out”….thank you for your comment. You perfectly described my experience with Adderall. I’m a nurse as well, ADD dx as an adult. Adderall has helped me feel like what I imagine “normal people” feel like. Calm and capable enough to sometimes accomplish daily tasks and work. Managing symptoms is still a daily struggle. … helped by medication, cognitive behavioral therapy and exercise.
I have not lost any weight in the 9 months I’ve used Adderall. Hate the stigma as well. Also hope anyone who is considering using this drug for non-ADD purposes to reconsider.
To anonymous “odd girl out”….thank you for your comment. You perfectly described my experience with Adderall. I’m a nurse as well, ADD dx as an adult. Adderall has helped me feel like what I imagine “normal people” feel like. Calm and capable enough to sometimes accomplish daily tasks and work. Managing symptoms is still a daily struggle. … helped by medication, cognitive behavioral therapy and exercise.
I have not lost any weight in the 9 months I’ve used Adderall. Hate the stigma as well. Also hope anyone who is considering using this drug for non-ADD purposes to reconsider.
P.S. GREAT BLOG!
Anon – Thanks for sharing your perspective as someone who actually takes this drug for its intended purpose! I do know – and am glad – that it works so well to alleviate the symptoms of ADHD. I'm glad that it works for you! Thanks for setting the record straight.
A friend of mine takes Adderall every day. She is not ADHD, but she was prescribed to take two pills a day by her doctor. If she takes two whole pills she will not eat or sleep and it affects her entire mentality. So, she only takes 1/4 of a pill each day. She eats twice a day and sleeps just fine.
I have begun to take a few from her, and I really want to try and get a prescription from my doctor. I feel like as long as I know my own "limit" and don't abuse it then it shouldn't be a problem. Knowing your limit and how to not abuse something is the key for ANYTHING.
I just posted, but forgot to mention…
I am 26 yrs old and right around 100 lbs. I have never dieted or tried to lose weight intentionally. My biggest fear with taking Adderall (even in a much lower dose than would be prescribed) is that I would still lose weight. I an't afford to lose ANY weight. I want more energy and focus. I want to feel good about myself for the things I can accomplish for my family. But the price of weight loss is something I can't have/don't want.
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DO NOT DO IT. UNLESS YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU NEED IT AND VERY FEW PEOPLE DO. IT IS TOTALLY OVER PRESCRIBED. IT IS THE WORST THING EVERY EQUIVALENT TO ANY OTHER ADDICTION – COKE, CRACK, HEROINE. STAY AWAY.
It is totally gross. I know a lot of people that did it in high school and into college and had severe side-effects.
Even taking it to pull all nighters on occasion which i’ve done is not cool cause all nighters are, well – not cool.It doesn’t help for school in the long run and weight management can be done on your own if you really focus on positive goals! Love yourselves! and Be Grateful for life and happy you don’t need drugs! 🙂
Never saw the devil until I took this crap. Almost committed suicide. It was a MIRACLE that I didn’t, my dad saved my life. I could tell you a story that you wouldn’t believe, but anything just as close would be the movie LIMITLESS, I felt this movie made light of a super drug and trust me… I felt bigger and more powerful than my Maker too many times. I was told eventually that its just legal speed. Shortly after my life altering episode I read where a Vanderbilt student did commit suicide, I cringe and hurt doe hia parents, just Thinking that couldve been me. Oh yeah, asked my doc change my pill cauae i felt the fillers were having a negative effect, she ignored my request and was always so eager to write me a Script. If anything happens to you on this drug the lawyers do not care and the docs never get in trouble. Hopefully this helps someone.
A while back I had suffered from bad depression. The doctors had prescribed me welbutrin. It worked for me until about a week or so of taking it I had a bad allergic reaction. I bstopped taking anything all together. Here recently I have been struggling with depression, and also pure mental exhaustion from my mind racing all day long. After long discussion with my doctor she recommended I be put on Adderall, but warned me:
“Adderall will cause a decreased appetite, and may result in weight loss. With your weight now I am not worried about the weight loss as long as you are still eating 3 sensible meals a day.”
I have always been a bigger girl (225lbs) so it was a welcomed side effect. For the first two weeks I had no appetite, and most days I wouldn’t eat barely anything. I was used to my body telling me when I was hungry and when to eat, but I no longer had that urge. When I did eat (maybe once a day) I had to force myself. It got to where I could barely move because my muscles were so weak and deprived, and I had a constant headache. I was losing around 3-5lbs a day. I became so addicted to it as an appetite suppressant and a weight loss drug that I forgot about the real reason I was taking it. I became obsessed with the scale. Amazed at how fast I was losing, I would step on the scale a few times a day, and get upset if I went up a few ounces.
Once I became sick, I knew I had to regain control. It is scary how fast you can become addicted to something. I stopped taking it for about 2 weeks while my college classes were on break because I felt like I could allow my mind to wander. During those two weeks my appetite came back and then some, and I assumed the weight would pile back on. It did not. I am the same weight as when I stopped taking it. It altered my metabolism, even though I am eating twice as much, I havent gained anything. But like my appetite, my depression and mental/physical exhaustion has come back too.
I decided to start back on the Adderall, but I knew from my first experience that I would have to remind myself when to eat, and force myself to eat if I had no urge to do so. I am on day 3 of the medicine. Eating has been a challenge, but I have been staying on track with meals. I am still losing weight. I used to give in to cravings and I think I had a love affair with little debbie. lol! Now I don’t have cravings, and since most days I have to force myself to eat, I eat healthy stuff and not all the junk. It has helped me with my mind racing and depression which is the reason I take it. I didn’t know about the side effects when I went to talk to my doctor about the troubles I was having. I didn’t know what medicineshe was going to put me on. I am still welcoming of the side effects (weight loss) but I will not let that become my addiction to the medicine again. It began to control me in a short amount of time.
It is a good medicine. However it is very addictive. For me it wasn’t the medicine itself that I became addicted to, It was the side effects. If you decide to go on adderall (for actual medical reasons) Make sure you take it as directed and do not let it control you.
When it comes to questions like this it makes me feel the need to point out that no answer here will be right. When it comes to medication it really is one of those things where everyone is literally different in how they will react to it. But also asking a question like this isent in good taste because in anything you do you should think about it first which you have clearly done, but like most thats not enough. Before you make any decisions you think about the subject, plan out your actions, and accept any and all potential outcomes. Do that and you at least shouldent regret any decisions you make in life. Gl.
Okay. I can honestly say I have read every word of both the subject (which I might add is poignant and beautifully down to earth while quite possibly the most intelligent written experience of life in general I’ve read in some time) and the conversation it sparked (just as praiseworthy as the afore mentioned) and I think the same attitude that many apply to sexual intercourse can be applied to the use of amphetamines. I would much rather know that a patient is taking them so they will do so safely and will be honest about the dosage and side effects. KEEP READING I AM NOT SAYING THAT AMPHETAMINES ARE SYNONYMOUS WITH SEX!!!
Now does that mean I think physicians should prescribe them to everyone willy nilly or that patients should lie to their doctors to get it? No, of course not. Does our firm belief that such behavior is void of all ethics stop physicians or patients from doing it? Unfortunately not.
My point is I think more than “it’s bad, don’t do it” needs to be said. I was diagnosed ADHD four years ago and tried several different medications before trying adderall. It works for me, I take the precaution of consuming nutrition drinks as to avoid malnourishment, I follow my psychiatrists instructions and keep all my appoinents. I am not by any means bone thin. If someone wants to take it for weight loss I would rather those of us who take it advise them on how to do so safely in these types of forums so they don’t die of a heart attack. Shutting them down because you think it is morally reprehensible does no one any good. I am grateful that my experience with adderall has been positive and I fully realize that others have not been as fortunate and I sympathize 100 percent and keep them in my prayers.
As a fellow human being I ask everyone to contribute to this conversation as well as others on subjects on the ethical teeter totter with compassion and offer realistic advice and a million thank-you’s to all of you who have shared your real-life experience.
Eternally grateful
As a legal user of the medication and not as a doctor, I guess I would give the advice of using it more as a helper and not become reliant on it for weight loss. The only people ,personal opinion, that should really try this for weight loss are those who have a problem with self control when it comes to eating. For it isent actually a weight loss drug more of an aid if its prescribed for this purpose. It will help curb your appetite but it will not do anything for actual weight loss, so that part will still have to be done by you. Btw the only diet I would strongly not recommend if you are taking adderall for weight loss is a ketosis diet. It would be dangerous to the health of the person because of the way ketosis diet works, and the effects of adderall would not be good on the body. On dose schedule for using it as a weight loss aid the only thing I can suggest is to keep a food log of when you binge eat or common times of bad eating habits to maybe use as a guide for a dose schedule. The best advice would be to not only get the adderall for assisting in your weight loss but also ask your doctor (if hes qualified) to set you up a diet or have a nutritionist set one up for you to be the base of your weightloss plan. Good luck to all attempting to use this medication legally for weight loss, as an alternative to using this medication I would also like to advocate a ketosis diet instead if your a healthy and responsible person when it comes to your health. Ketosis diet when done right is better then anything else in my opinion, with personal experiance, went from 260-270 pounds to 175-180 at a pretty fast rate. It’s deff the best diet for quick weight loss at least, but like I said it either requires a responsible person when it comes to there own wellbeing or have a nutritionist experianced with ketosis diets to set you up a plan. Good luck all and anyone can lose weight, it just takes a lil bit of effort and the realization that you want to lose weight for you not anyone else. Good luck Love you all and wish anyone attempting weight loss the best of luck.
On a side note for safety’s sake I would like to add , while a bit off topic but indulge me please. Before taking any medication for any reason read all the side effects and possible positive and negative outcomes of the medication you will be prescribed. After reading it all and taking it in(includes discussions with doctor), decide if the benefit outweighs the possible negatives for you personally and dont short-change this decision because its an important one. That way at the very least you will not have regrets, and will be ready to face the consequences or your decision, good or bad. Hopefully whatever you decide will be a good outcome <3.
I’ve been using adderall for ADHD, but the perks of the curved appetite has impacted my motivation for why I take this drug. On days that I don’t take the adderall, i feel sluggish and lethargic. I take 20mgs in the morning, but for the past three days ive moved up to 40mgs which is what I was prescribed to be on. I also suffer from depression and I manage that with Prozac. I don’t want to end up being psychologically addicted to adderall, so I’m using it in moderation. I feel better when i take it.
For my health, Im very overweight 18 year Old male; 270 lbs, 6″4. I used to attend weigh watchers meetings for managing my weight. WW combined with adderall was an amazing feat to my battle with my weight. I felt like I could control my weight without the use of adderall and I decreased to 20 mgs, but I had a stressfull previous year, causing me to gain a lot of my weight back. I used to weigh 308.6 lbs, that’s the exact amound on the day i joined weight watchers in july of 2010. I’m thinking of jlining WW again with my girlfriend. I made it down to around 240lbs, and gained 50 of it back. From three to for weeks ago I am down 15 lbs with exercise and moderation of food.
I want to feel healthy again. I don’t want to deprive my body of its nutrients. I went out and bought miltivitamins for men under 50; which I recently started taking daily. I’m not sure about which vitamins are needed more than others, but I’m going to do some research. I don’t want tO lose any muscle, so i need to stack up on the protein. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
As for you, charlotte… Or Anyone Trying this drug…If you are going to take this medication, please start of slowly with exercize and stay at a low dosage. I’ve started taking 40mgs, like I stated, and I feel unbelievably jittery and hyper. Not to mention, I feel as if I have a constant head ache. I can’t sleep, but that’s always been a problem…. This blog has opened my eyes a lot. Thanks everyone for your posts. I wish everyone luck in their battle with ADHD Or weight loss.
Wow, times have changed but stories are still the same. Years ago when my now college kids were small, I had a friend who suggested I get my kids on Ritalin, Adderall all the Goodies so they can improve their schoolwork etc. I chose to go the natural route. My friend was also a very competitive mother who prided herself on her children’s academic achievements while looking like the “Perfect” size 0 modern mom. This “friend” was so energetic, she’d wash her car at 12 midnight – who the He%* washes the car this late! This gal has her last kid in a reputable UC, while my kids are at State colleges. Bottom line is, once a person crosses that fine line of “Magic Pill” that can fix homework, we can use that same drug for energy and loose weight at the same time! No stopping what other pills can do for us. Yes I know there are instructions as to how meds should betaken, yet so much abuse is going on, probably better to not even go there. BTW her older son has a scar that goes across his wrist, not sure if I believe her story, none of my business. Any stimulant can cause depression also. I’m not an expert but feel that others can relate to this. Thanks
Just wanted to add: I’ve been in the fitness industry for 30 years and in L.A. One can never be too thin or young! Bullsh#t! Love ourselves for who we really are, fat, thin, rich or poor- we kill ourselves to live up to superficial perfection- I’ve been there , over exercising to keep up, it’s just another treadmill- no pun intended! Perfect “looking” people aren’t always the happiest inside! Bottom line, pills won’t fix the problems in our minds. Peace
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I think it’s sad that this is a post about drug abuse- it’s illegal and punishable by law. No one should be taking prescription drugs without a proper diagnosis.
I have ADD- so does my father and now my son. It’s abuse like this that sickens me.
These drugs have been around for 60 years… Not much less than most medications nowadays used to treat diabetes, cholesterol, anxiety, depression, etc.
You aren’t a dr and afaik neither is anyone commenting. Your friend’s Dr proooobably went to medical school and is licensed federally and in their state to prescribe medications- you’re not. It’s very likely your friends Dr assessed her height, weight, height:weight, heart rate, blood pressure and medical history (which would include anorexia nervosa, according to you…) before prescribing this medication. You are a blogger. Probably the Dr has more say in what’s healthy vs what’s not… Just saying. Everything you’re saying is pure opinion- none of these are facts.
I started using (without a script) adderall for the first time in 8th grade. I must also add that by 6th grade I was drinking, and by 8th I was brining liquor to school, and taking painpills in addition to adderall. I have a history of drug addiction and I believe that it started in middle school when I began doing these things.
By the end of 9th grade I was taking over 200mg of both IR & XR mg adderall, (among other drugs) and completely messed up my dopamine, health, and sanity. I have always been small (5’6″ 100 lbs), so this habit really hit my body hard and I had a couple close calls…I can’t even put into words the misery that came after the initial euphoria of adderall. As much as I tried, I could not get that euphoria back, no matter how much I did. So I switched to coke. You can imagine how much this Did not help. I went to rehab for 1 1/2 when I was 16, so that put my lifestyle on hold-enough time to clear my brain out and put back on some weight.
Fast forward to now, 21, and I recently got back into the adderall craziness, against my better judgement..I vowed that I would not go back to coke or meth, but add was ok..but it’s not. I dropped down to 85lbs, and felt that same panicky nervousness late at night even after smoking pot & taking ambien to fall asleep. I really started to lose my mind but I was I convinced myself that it was the only way I could get As in my classes. After a particularly bad night, my bf who is also an addict, said we needed to stop. So we did. Cold turkey. But now I’ve found myself once again with adderall, but again, no drinking or other drugs.. This disease/addiction is ruining my life, and the programs I have tried my best to work have not given me much relief. I don’t know what to do anymore. All I can say to those enjoying the beginning greatness of adderall, is stop. Right now. Because in the end it will drag you down, and steal your happiness, motivation, dreams away. I know it sounds dramatic, but it is the truth. I still have a hard time not chasing after that euphoria, but I wish I had never messed with adderall to begin with.
Best of luck to fellow euphoriacs.
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I sounded just like you, before Adderall ruined my life.
There is nothing worth the hell and destruction these little pills did to my life. Please take this site down and stop glorifying this extremely addictive drug. Starts out great and then you end up just like a meth-head. Lost my career, my home, my family because I HAD to have more and more. Not to mention the destruction to my brain, memory, and emotional stability. Make the right choice.
I have the same friend as you but in my case I told the doc. I was adhd ….i moved to college @21 yrs old started my meds. And felt like super woman.. I am a personal trainer/ server/ and full time student..yeah that sounds nice until your out of them and your 30 day refill isnt up..its like im in a small coma the rest of the time..I love it but it can really rueion a god person.my friend that insist I get on this has become the most selfish person mother to her 2 year old; that iscwhat makes me step back and think do I minipulate and become so selfish like her…I dont drink unless I take it nor does she I dobt have another life at stake ither but she does but if I keep on will I be that mom? I was raised totaly diferent booz percription meds wasn’t in my familys vocabulary. So I feel like a bad seed but if I have it in my system I feel like a champ its the break away of when im out to my pick up date when reality sets in……choose wisely!
If someone I care about were to ask me if they should lie to their doctors about having ADHD in order to receive these pills, I would go so far as to pay them not to.
Yes, it sounds like you’d be living in a perfect world with these helpful boosts at your disposal, I know. But you have to realize that what goes up must come down. I was like you- I had never experimented with any sort of drugs before, apart from prescriptions, but a friend told me that Adderall was too good to be true. So, breaking under the stress of every day life, I started taking them.
These pills have ruined me. Once, I nearly overdosed twice in one week. I’ve since stopped taking them, but only under close supervision from my friends and family. It’s been months and yet I still get impulses to find them somehow, I get severe depression, ect. The point is that once you start taking these drugs regularly, you’re never going to be satisfied with yourself or your life without them. You will always remember how easy and cheerful things were when you had them, and it will PERMANENTLY decrease your motivation in general.
Please, PLEASE don’t promote these drugs for use by individuals without ADHD or ADD. It seems perfect until you calculate the fact that a pill which works for only 4 hours or so at a time after regular use cannot make your life perfect forever. once they wear off, even just at the end of each day, everything feels pointless again. Much worse than things were before you started taking them.
I had to go through the rotation after a few years off of what I grew up on to get it back. I take 80 mg of short acting dexedrine and it makes me never want to eat. It also makes me really tired an lazy because I have always been hyper and even though that stuff is “approved” for what I take it for, at some points, I tell myself, it wasn’t worth the hell of the XR crap. I have no clue why they say this is the same as that vyvanse garbage but these feel or help nowhere near the same. I need to eat and the short acting doses help me do that and if the starting dose for obesity is 5-10 mg twice a day and I take 20 mg 4 times a day, I need to stay on it.
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I’m currently taking adderall 30 mg for weight lose I cam still sleep ar night as long as I take it in the morning and I can eat u just don’t get the urge too only idiots won’t eat at all I love it in the first day I lost six pounds in down 40 and counting go me love love love adderalll
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I dont have a prescription to Adderral but have had occasion to take it on multiple occassions. I would suggest thinking real hard about having a prescription for Adderral if you care about having a normal life. A normal life has ups and downs, trials and tribulations, victories and defeats, you get beat up sometimes and other times you end up on top, you make mistakes and have some good calls, In between you enjoy the little things like times with friends, family, kids, or even watching the day go by. Adderral turns it all into a blur. makes your brain think that you can just keep going, bypass the little things, just go on to next task.you feel like you are getting things done, accomplishment-it doesnt even feel real sometimes- and then when the drug wears off you’re kinda feeling like where did the day go, and laying in bed unable to sleep. You may think the accomplishment is because of the drug, but its not true, you can accomplish just as much and even more by simply living life the way it was intended- take your best shot at it, when you fail learn from it, but when you get a victory or accomplishment all on your own it will feel so much better knowing you did it on your own without chemical enhancement. Adderral can put you on a path to dependence, and enjoyment of life without the drug will become further out of reach
Weird stiuff that Adderall. I’ve been given it for depression. Been taking it for 6mos. So far all it does is make me want to eat constantly, feel unmotivated most days AND, lifts my depression ever so subtle … A little be better everyday. Great right?! Unfortunately, now I’m 21 lbs heavier, no motivation to exercise and that is starting to make me depressed again! The irony of it eh? It’s all a bunch of hooey I say. Gotta go now and eat everything in sight for breakfast.
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I was looking for information regarding Adderall, and came upon this blog. I have just been prescribed Adderall at my request by my Neuro, who thought we could try it and see if it helps.
I don’t have ADHD. I had Inflammatory Breast Cancer, 7 years ago, I had Thyroid Cancer 5 years ago, and now I am struggling with a Paraneoplastic Myasthenic Syndrome, which affects my neuromuscular system. I have gone into breathing crisis seven times in the past two years ending up in the ICU an average of five to seven days. My lung muscles, intercostal and diaphragm, fatigue and lose their ability to function. This is autoimmune related to cancer. I get IV Immunoglobulin monthly. This is a ten hour infusion four days a month, and leaves me with aseptic meningitis (a horrible horrible headache for which I get Dilaudid – the only narcotic that doesn’t make my breathing worse… it lasts for about four days) I am trying to lengthen the intervals that I need the IV Immunoglobulin. But my chest muscles get very weak. I have chemo brain, no doubt. I was treated with extremely high doses of chemo for almost two years. I lost 30% heart function at one point and we had to delay the chemo for a time. I had radiation every day for 60 days. My onco told me that he was going to bring me as close to death as possible without actually killing me. I had a very low survival probability per the biological aspects of the cancer. I was 44 at the time with an 8 yo daughter. I told her that I would do everything possible to survive, and I told my onco, who advised me that I could have lifelong complications, unknown, because of our treatment protocol, well I told him as long as I was alive, I could have the opportunity to deal with those complications. Now I am.
I took the Adderall yesterday, 10 mg twice a day. I still spent the day in bed. But I was able to do research on the computer. I had a bit more focus, even though I still had no “energy”, no amphetamine rush. My chest muscles moved though on inhalation! That alone is incredible. I could take and can now take a deep breath. I slept throughout the night and did not wake up from neuropathic pain, a first in a long time. I wish I had the rush, I wish I had the energy. I had been drinking a ton of energy drinks, but can’t stomach them anymore. A few years ago, I was taking old ephedra diet pills purchased from Canada, I made a bottle of 100 last two years, one pill here and there when I had to do something, like go to a doctor’s appointment, but then I ran out and they didn’t work as effectively at the end. Apparently ephedra was the old stand by for persons with Myasthenic Syndromes until the 60s with the onset of newer drugs. I am hoping Adderall helps. It frustrates me to hear so many people complain, talk of abusing drugs, talk about the dangers and side effects. Talk about black box drugs! I’ve been on countless black box drugs, and I’m alive because of them! I have low blood pressure when I am not in pain, 90/60, when I’m in pain it goes up to 130/80. I hear ignorant persons telling me my blood pressure is ok at 130/80. It is not. That is a huge increase. I am not overweight, I am in the high end of normal for my height, although I’ve put on almost twenty pounds since being sick, lack of exercise and yet I still need to eat a healthy diet, and a diet of 1200 calories is not healthy for the sick no matter how little exercise you get. I want to do stuff. I hate spending the time in bed. I am looking for anything that gives me energy!
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For every up with Adderall, you literally can bet your ass, there is a down.
Time goes by faster on it, because you are biologically experiencing time faster. Your heart goes faster. Heart palpitations, high blood pressure, insomnia come with it. Electrical impulses are just erratic and firing off everywhere in your body. Your personality will change. You can experience disorganized thinking. You will be insincerely excited about everything simply because you are stimulated easily. It will make it harder to connect with people on a genuine level. Your bones could feel weaker and your body can produce more uric acid… the crystals that form in your joints and cause gout… yeah… nasty.
You can very easily forget to eat which is nice for a while… an occasional fast is good for everyone. But then the heart palpitations can always get worse and you can feel the blood pressure giving you a headache at the same time you can feel your arteries hardening in your neck. After the deep breathing, comes shallow breathing… sometimes sleep apnea or feeling like your heart stops in your sleep… which is terrifying.
Don’t forget… amphetamines (which adderall is) can be hell on your skin too. It feels like your skin is thinner, and you have photosensitivity. If you’re not picking at your skin from from being anxious, you might just break out like crazy which can cause scarring or open little infections that can take forever to heal. And for a little while, you’ll feel like nothing can possibly be clean enough… which is very similar to a meth addict’s behavior.
When the Adderall wears off and you feel hunger again, you’re going to feel ravenous. And after you eat a ton for a few days, you’ll probably sleep a ton for weeks and you will never feel like meeting the day with the same enthusiasm that you had when you were taking adderall every day. And when your digestive system tries to adapt, you’ll probably get hemorrhoids. You excessively pee and more protein can come out in your urine. Your adrenal glands will overworked too.
Your whole body will have been overstimulated for too long if you have taken addrall to lose enough weight to be happy with yourself. By then… it will be too late. Your body will be biologically addicted… along with the pleasure center in your brain. Which means, you will get crying spells and depression with out adderall. You will pack on weight like crazy, be completely run down from having wasted years of energy in a month, and nothing will feel as stimulating or pleasurable or interesting enough without that little pill.
I’m trying to imagine someone writing a blog post that attacked antidepressant medications, and saying that depressed individuals “have other options to handle their problems”. I doubt many people would do that, because, well, depression is actually a thing (though overdiagnosed and overtreated, for sure) and those who suffer from it have real biochemical imbalances in their brains. Yet when it comes to ADD/ADHD, we are just to “find other options”, even though we have found a very viable one that does a damn good job? Like true, clinical depression, ADD/ADHD is a biochemical imbalance in the brain. We could debate all day over the cause(s), but regardless of where it came from, it is VERY real to those of us who struggle with it.
My parents were advised to put me on Ritalin when I was in second grade, which they did not do, and I am glad. I appreciate having had the opportunity to come to understand my “quirky” self and push my limits with ADD. I became able to function in most situations due to the coping mechanisms I developed during childhood. I was diagnosed with ADD clinically at age 30. My adult life was chaotic, and not by choice. I was destructively impulsive all through my 20’s, and I could not stop myself. The older I got, the less and less capable of “finding alternatives to deal with my issues” I became. I was devastatingly overwhelmed and felt like I could not go on living a life where I could no longer cope with a daily routine. I was prescribed a strictly-monitored Adderall 10mg XR daily. I am drug tested once a month (as are most people prescribed amphetamines/dextroamphetamines these days). I have never once experienced a high from Adderall. I have never seen demons, as one commenter mentioned, or had any experience remotely close to this: “Those great wonderful ideas and ‘I’m the queen of the universe’ feelings turn into mountains of debt and regrettable encounters with people who don’t respect you” (Wth are we even talking about there?!).
What I DO experience is a calm in my mind where before was only chaos. I can focus, for the first time in my life. I don’t feel so overwhelmed that I consider ending it. It is beyond offensive to me that people who are lucky enough to live without the chaotic mind that is ADD can sit back and write funny blogs about people who abuse a serious medication and then run the full gamut of disdain for those who actually *need* that medication in the comments section. Let me just say this… YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Go through just one day of your life with ADD and *then* we’ll talk. Until then, you don’t understand anything about this drug or this disorder.
And to the “Dr”, you’ve got it completely backward. Kids should be spared from drugs while their minds are still developing. Adults with ADD, who have fully-developed brains, should have the option to choose to take a medication for a diagnosed disease if they wish. What a skewed and uninformed view you have of this disorder and the development of children’s brains.
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I’m not going to lie, these stories are scaring me! I just started Adderall a couple of days ago, and it has been a not totally satisfactory experience. I have suffered from severe depression for most of my life (I’m 23), and severe anxiety for the past couple of years, and I took Adderall for the first time a month ago that I received from a friend who has had similar depression issues.
To be totally honest, I did take it to cram for a final. What I experienced, however, was the most incredible feeling in the world. I was euphoric in a way I had never been before. I can’t remember being this happy, ever. This followed a suicide attempt that I had about a month prior to taking my friend’s pill. After the attempt (which was my first serious attempt–and I was very nearly successful), my depression had only gotten worse. The single most best predictor of a successful suicide attempt is having a failed suicide attempt. I became near non-functional; I was having regular suicidal ideations whenever I became too overwhelmed. I only took half of it (I have no idea what the dosage was to begin with), and I just could not believe that I was so happy, motivated, optimistic, and rational. I felt like this is what normal people must feel like. I have been on so many different anti-depressants (I’ve tried about 10+), mood stabilizers, and antianxieties, have been in psychotherapy for the past 8 years, have had two mental hospitalizations, and my hope had been exhausted.
I don’t want this to become yet another problem in my life, but I’ve already accepted that I will very likely be on antidepressants and antianxieties for the remainder of my life, so being dependent on Adderall doesn’t seem so bad (unless it’s a pathological dependence that threatens my life, of course). The Adderall crashes are fairly bummish, but it still beats me wanting to kill myself. Weight loss is, of course, an incredible side effect, especially considering the three other medications I’m on cause weight gain. It’s not perfect–I was actually diagnosed with ADHD, so I’m not just taking it willy-nilly–but it gives me this incredible hope that I don’t have to live my life everyday wanting to not exist. Literally the only thing that kept me going was the enormous shame and guilt I felt for abandoning my boyfriend like that. It would have destroyed him, and it would be entirely my fault–not to discount the many other people who I would destroy as well.
I have read all of the previous posts, and I thought I’d add my experience. Weighing the consequences for me? Well, here’s a way to think about it: I was ready to kill myself when I missed my initial psychiatrist visit to discuss it (my car broke down 6 miles away, and I was 60 miles from home) and had to wait two weeks before being able to see him. Now? Haven’t wanted to die in 3 whole days. I have energy all day. I actually want to be social and not lay in bed crying all day. I have wanted to have sex, which hasn’t occurred in over 3 years. Maybe Adderall won’t last forever, but it sure is lasting a lot longer than my imminent suicide would have put me.
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I feel compelled to respond to this, because I was just prescribed Adderall a couple months ago. My daughter is TEXTBOOK ADHD and her psychiatrist just prescribed it to her because her Concerta was no longer working for her. I in the meantime, had a sleep study, got a CPAP machine, and though my apnea was cured, still struggled with tiredness and lack of energy. I have lived in a dream state for the last couple of years! I can stay awake while driving, and in dangerous situations, but otherwise my cycle was get up, goto work, come home and sleep. It was literally ruining my life. My daughter felt alone, my house was constantly a mess, and I was severely depressed because all I could do was sleep and sleep and never feel better!
My sleep doctor, on check up a couple months after my CPAP therapy began, on falling asleep in his waiting room waiting to see him, no less, said that should no longer be. My studies showed the CPAP was working for my apnea. Hence, it was not just my apnea but something else causing a big problem for me.
I have always struggled with my weight. Even since childhood. By adulthood I was convinced I just had sucky genes. My metabolism is severely sluggish by default. That is not normal, and I felt it was so unfair! Bloodwork had been done throughout the years, and no doctor ever found anything wrong with my pancreas, my thyroid, etc. No one could find a good reason why I would have to eat only 1000 calories a day and workout 1 hr + each day just to lose any weight at all!
So anyway, my sleep doctor determined I am mildly narcoleptic. For me to still be that sluggish and tired, even though my apnea was clearly cured with the use of my CPAP. and nothing showed in my bloodwork, that had to be it. So he prescribed me Adderall.
It took me a couple of weeks to work up the nerve to try it– I know I was miserable, but I know it is Amphetamine. I know people abuse it for speed, and I have a sensitive heart. I didn’t want to just feel like I drank a whole pot of coffee! But I have a couple of truly ADHD friends who encouraged me to try it.
I finally started it, and wow!! No nasty side effects for me. No heart pounding! For the first time in a very long time, I feel awake! I feel like a normal person must feel! It’s my miracle in a pill bottle! I have enough energy to cook dinner after work! I can clean house, I can do dishes, I don’t have to lay in bed every weekend and not do anything. It is so wonderful, it has literally transformed me. I don’t feel sped up or high, I feel like a normal 30-something woman with a normal metabolism and energy level!! I am sooo happy the dr prescribed this and has fixed me.
I know I have an addictive personality. I’ve never done drugs any harder than pot, and I never would. But I know I have to be careful. I have rheumatoid arthritis and a couple of bulging discs in my neck, so I take pain meds on a regular basis. I still have refused any Vicodin scripts for the very reason of fear of addiction and problems with it. But Adderall? This is one I am so glad I took and am using.
There is a popular expression online, “YMMV”– Your Mileage May Vary. Everyone has their own story, reasons, history, personality, etc. For me, it has been two months and I actually asked the doctor to write me a script for a smaller dose, because I don’t want to take too much per day and abuse it or mess something up. 10 mg a day is just perfect for me. But you may have a different experience. You may, knowing what your fears are, be able to take it with no problem like I do. But you just don’t know unless you try. And in your case, are you willing to, just to lose a few pounds? I admit, I am happy that I have gone down a couple pant sizes in the last couple of months. That’s a side effect I won’t complain about! Last week I wore a pair of jeans I haven’t fit in in two years! But, it is like a poster above said– If you take it for the right reasons because your body needs it, you won’t have the nasty side effects, just relief and benefits.
I feel compelled to respond to this, because I was just prescribed Adderall a couple months ago. My daughter is TEXTBOOK ADHD and her psychiatrist just prescribed it to her because her Concerta was no longer working for her. I in the meantime, had a sleep study, got a CPAP machine, and though my apnea was cured, still struggled with tiredness and lack of energy. I have lived in a dream state for the last couple of years! I can stay awake while driving, and in dangerous situations, but otherwise my cycle was get up, goto work, come home and sleep. It was literally ruining my life. My daughter felt alone, my house was constantly a mess, and I was severely depressed because all I could do was sleep and sleep and never feel better!
My sleep doctor, on check up a couple months after my CPAP therapy began, on falling asleep in his waiting room waiting to see him, no less, said that should no longer be. My studies showed the CPAP was working for my apnea. Hence, it was not just my apnea but something else causing a big problem for me.
I have always struggled with my weight. Even since childhood. By adulthood I was convinced I just had sucky genes. My metabolism is severely sluggish by default. That is not normal, and I felt it was so unfair! Bloodwork had been done throughout the years, and no doctor ever found anything wrong with my pancreas, my thyroid, etc. No one could find a good reason why I would have to eat only 1000 calories a day and workout 1 hr + each day just to lose any weight at all!
So anyway, my sleep doctor determined I am mildly narcoleptic. For me to still be that sluggish and tired, even though my apnea was clearly cured with the use of my CPAP. and nothing showed in my bloodwork, that had to be it. So he prescribed me Adderall.
It took me a couple of weeks to work up the nerve to try it– I know I was miserable, but I know it is Amphetamine. I know people abuse it for speed, and I have a sensitive heart. I didn’t want to just feel like I drank a whole pot of coffee! But I have a couple of truly ADHD friends who encouraged me to try it.
I finally started it, and wow!! No nasty side effects for me. No heart pounding! For the first time in a very long time, I feel awake! I feel like a normal person must feel! It’s my miracle in a pill bottle! I have enough energy to cook dinner after work! I can clean house, I can do dishes, I don’t have to lay in bed every weekend and not do anything. It is so wonderful, it has literally transformed me. I don’t feel sped up or high, I feel like a normal 30-something woman with a normal metabolism and energy level!! I am sooo happy the dr prescribed this and has fixed me.
I know I have an addictive personality. I’ve never done drugs any harder than pot, and I never would. But I know I have to be careful. I have rheumatoid arthritis and a couple of bulging discs in my neck, so I take pain meds on a regular basis. I still have refused any Vicodin scripts for the very reason of fear of addiction and problems with it. But Adderall? This is one I am so glad I took and am using.
There is a popular expression online, “YMMV”– Your Mileage May Vary. Everyone has their own story, reasons, history, personality, etc. For me, it has been two months and I actually asked the doctor to write me a script for a smaller dose, because I don’t want to take too much per day and abuse it or mess something up. 10 mg a day is just perfect for me. But you may have a different experience. You may, knowing what your fears are, be able to take it with no problem like I do. But you just don’t know unless you try. And in your case, are you willing to, just to lose a few pounds? I admit, I am happy that I have gone down a couple pant sizes in the last couple of months. That’s a side effect I won’t complain about! Last week I wore a pair of jeans I haven’t fit in in two years! But, it is like a poster above said– If you take it for the right reasons because your body needs it, you won’t have the nasty side effects, just relief and benefits.
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I wish I could go back in time…to before I ever tried that pill…
The sad part is…yes, in the beginning, the first 4 years or so…it works like a magic, effortless and beautiful thing…until about 5 years in…you can’t wake up without it, think without it or function without it…
It becomes a crutch…a lifeline…and a prison…
And the sad part is at the end my weight DID NOT stay low from it. I GAINED weight on TONS of adderall.
PLEASE. Save yourself. DON’T do it.
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I have to comment because I am caught in this adderall nightmare right now. First of all, I believe I have “ADD”…. it truly would explain why I had to work so hard to focus in school, why my report cards going back to elementary throughout middle school had comments like, “has a hard time staying in her seat”… “Can’t stop talking during class”…. I always felt “different”… more sensitive, hyper with trouble sleeping, and then extremely exhausted. Seemed to be a vicious cycle from an early age. Racing mind, felt depression was nipping at my heels but covering it up with a super outgoing personality, and I found myself being almost OCD and so passionate about something, then burning myself out before I could ever complete the task. Then on top of that, I developed bulimia (I have done a lot of research and there is definitely a connection between these disorders).
Here is what I believe to be true, but please keep reading because I see the other side too: I believe that my genetic brain chemistry is different than my husband’s… who seems to produce plenty of serotonin and dopamine… he sleeps like a baby and has energy all day. Everyone in his family does. Everyone in my family is prone to depression, takes sleep aides, and my mom was hooked on meth by the time I graduated college. Do I believe that this medication helps me because I probably have a shortage on some level, yes. Keep in mind, I NEVER experimented with recreational drugs, despite what was going on in my own house with my parents. Then I had kids and felt more pressure to be “up”, focused and “normal” than ever before. I do not need a lecture about how screwed up this is…. I know that already. I follow a very whole foods type diet, and I know that when I eat and live in a balanced way, I felt good. But life seemed to keep happening, and doing the right things day in and day out started to seem like such a struggle. I felt like something was wrong. I went to my doctor, explained to him what I was struggling with, and I NEVER lied about any symptoms…. he was convinced I needed adderall. At first I was able to 100% keep it under control… I am a small person and while I only lost 3-5 lbs. during the past year I have taken it…. it did stop me from the binge pattern that I had still been falling into- even at 34 with 3 kids.
So fast forward a year…. I am realizing that everyday I find a reason I need to take not 20 mg, but 40 mg. MY doctor increased my dosage because I seemed to burn through the first pill so fast that I was crashing early on the day. A major problem is that I don’t have negative side effects overall, except that I feel like a prisoner to it. I panic if I leave the house without it for a full day because I am worried I won’t be able to socialize or feel “normal”. It’s like I take it and something in my brain “clicks” and things that used to be hard or forced, aren’t. But Life was actually better when I had to figure out natural, real ways to cope with insecurities and struggles, because I didn’t feel guilty, like a hypocrite or worry about long-term effects. However, because I’ve used this band-aid for the binging and fatigue, I am scared to death to stop taking it. What’s more dangerous… binging and purging or taking speed? So, I have to agree with many of the previous posts, keep working toward solving your problems and getting to the root of them whether it’s experimenting with balancing your hormones, eliminating foods that cause brain fog, meditation, getting sleep when you can… and just accepting that you are who you are and don’t have to be “better”. I wish I could rewind and never tried that pill that I’m sorry, is SO ADDICTIVE if you have an addictive personality because when you get a taste of that feeling and that control, you don’t want to give it up. But if you are struggling else that you feel like is threatening your life or quality of life and adderall helps you get through that, I can’t judge you because that is my inner struggle.
Good luck to those of you who have the same struggles, and I hope those of you who have no negatives with adderall continue to feel this way and that you don’t see long term damage.
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This is a great blog post…even years old…the dilemma continues in our society. I have a dear friend (a mother) that started sneaking her child’s pills. Just like many say…it gave her focus and she got sooo much more done each day…she was “Super MOM”! However, she never had ADD or ADHD, this was stealing her kids prescription. Her husband found out and is extremely mad…told the doctor. And now she has to get off…this is where I come in. Getting off is much harder than you think…the doctor suggested weaning or tapering off…and we went online trying to understand what to expect. She has now told her family and friends that she will be undergoing a “transition” period and needs our support and understanding. We found a lot of good info on this website Adderall Support I now see the dark side of this drug and see my friend struggling to get her life back on track. Please think about it before popping pills for a quick fix.
I have a very unique story regarding amphetamines. I’m sharing because I hope others do not experience what I did. I was prescribed amphetamines for post partum depression following an antidepressant, among other meds to “g i ve me a boost”. I have a thyroid condition that makes me fatigued but other than thyroid meds, I did not take any other meds, ever. I am very sensitive I might add.
Had I known what was going to happen, I would have refused them altogether. I thought I was being helped/treated and without realizing it, got so much worse. I do not have any ADD.
On amphetamines, I was a raging, hyper bitch with an amazingly clean house. I loved that I wasnt hungry and quickly shed a few pounds. I soon depended on it. If I didnt take it, I turned my car around to get it so I could function. I never had an addiction before. I began withdrawing from my husband, family, friends. I was not myself. I dont remember things I did, said, etc. I was always manic for no reason other than the meds. My pupils were always dialated. I was unstoppable. Fast forward in that mode, my depression was not getting better, I was just hyper and depressed. I thought I was going ti be eternally upset with life. I felt stuck, but hyper and was always looking for a way to escape my own home. I thought it was being married….whuch leads to my greatest regret….letting these meds cloud me so much that I divorced a wonderful man. No one could stop me, no one could reason with me.
I had no business being on themamphetamines. They would have hurt or killed me by now, had I not become pregnant with my second child, (not planned, not with anyone I should have been involved with). Getting off the amphetamines was a must the second I realized I was pregnant. I began intense therapy as the childs father became an abusive monster. I got away from him completely. I finally realized in some intense therapy what had happened to me. I drew a ton of inner strength to overcome the meds, an abuser and face being single with my new child. I had to get a handle on who I was again quickly for myself to care for my children. I got care for prenatal depression (its real) as a preventative measure so I didnt lose my marbles again. It goes without saying I found a new therapist and doctor who wasnt so quick to hand out prescriptions like the previous one.
Luckily I have pulled through beautifully. My children and I are healthy.
Although I have gained a bit of weight- my body has made 2 beautiful, healthy children, so I kee p that it prespective and choose not too hard on myself. At least now I have my life back, I am safe and healthy, inside and out.
I urge you to examine why you might welcome this medication into your body and your world. For legit ADD, it may be a Godsend for some. For recreation or weight control, please beware. For postpartum depression, please get yourself another opinion! It is not a quick fix drug, it is life and mind altering and disturbing. I let this drug take too much of my life.
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Please do not start Adderall.If you are considering starting don’t. Adderall took everything from me. It robbed me of my youth happiness individuality and even my health.I was prescribed Adderall at 15 I began abusing Adderall after the birth of my child (23) I developed Postpartum Psychosis directly linked to my stimulant abuse. This little pill had taken so much from me even before I began abusing it. It took my smile and authenticity. I promise you it is a living hell. I hope I helped with this post
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I am autistic and have two learning disorders. One is ADHD. I have never been able to hold a job. I have never been able to have a decent human relationship. I have only this year been put on Adderall. If I’d had it in childhood, I would have had a life. It’s too late now. When my father died, I lost everything, because he didn’t tell anyone that his new wife made him change his will to leave 100 percent of every last thing to her. Now I’m staying with my sister and her husband, who hate me for not being of their religion, while my SSI lawyer tries to get me on government benefits. In Wisconsin, where I am, I have medical insurance, and a food benefits card.
It’s too late for me, now. I hope this excessive fear and scandalizing over a medication that is no more dangerous than most prescription medications DEPENDING ON THE PATIENT–need, soundness of certain bodily systems to tolerate the specific chemicals, etc. will not destroy anyone else’s life, like it did mine. I’m not retarded. my IQ is 142. It doesn’t take complete inability to move or speak to disable you.
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Didn’t mention that I’m fifty years old. I now pass for a normal person. I’ll always have my disabilities, but I could have had them with company and a job if I’d had Adderall. I understand hating drugs that have hurt you; I have quite a list myself. But this is just bandwagon scandal-mongering. Some of the points made are certainly valid; but the main one, which people keep ignoring, is this. Your life is going down the toilet from a drug? Dump it! You’re acting like a mere substance–alcohol, Adderall, Benzedrine, other things mentioned–can be evil. All they can EVER DO unless YOU pick them up and swallow them is LIE THERE. Doctors are not infallible. By the way, Adderall in particular is a drug that, below certain doses, you can simply STOP with no physical danger. Your dose would have to be huge indeed to endanger you by cutting it off. Tapering is always an option as well.
Stop blaming everyone else in the world, including an inanimate substance that couldn’t hurt you or anyone without your help, and stop taking it! And for god sakes, remember the people for whom it has beneficial, if not life-saving, properties, before you rant against the drug itself!
By the way, however much life I have left, I won’t be spending it in a wheelchair because of Adderall. Including slowing and calming my brain so I can see, hear, and think, it has corrected my mitral valve heart defect so I can walk as easily as when I was a child, but not so strongly as to be dangerous like the heart boosters were.
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